[Complete] Ladder Tournament #2
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[Complete] Ladder Tournament #2
Ladder Tournament #2 has begun! message your opponent on Discord and the forums to schedule your games. Good luck and most importantly have fun!
Greetings! I am excited to announce the second Ladder Tournament,which will start on Monday, October 25th 2021.
Ladder Tournament #2 has been delayed to Monday, November 8th. With the release of Wesnoth version 1.16 it is going to take sergey a bit to get the Ladder Era ported over. Sorry for the delay.
The good news is we will probably have more participants with the later start date.
The goal of this tournament is to finish testing the Ladder Era viewtopic.php?f=15&t=49964 (an era developed specifically for competitive 1v1s) before version 1.0 comes out which will then be required for all Ladder matches, and to bring more interest in the competitive Wesnoth scene. I am currently very happy with how balanced the Ladder Era is, and I do not anticipate any major imbalances in the tournament.
Please visit here to register for the Ladder: https://wesnoth.gamingladder.info/
If you haven't checked out my Wesnoth Strategy Guide please do so here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=54236
I will be using a Swiss Magic: The Gathering style tournament structure. That means a certain number of rounds based on how many players are registered. 32+ players will be a 6 round tournament.
Round 1 will be completely randomized. In Round 2 the 1-0 players will play the other 1-0 players, while the 0-1 players will play the other 0-1 players. Round 3 will consist of the 2-0 players playing eachother, the 1-1 players against eachother, and the 0-2 players against eachother. etc etc
if there is an odd number of players in different win/loss brackets then the system will assign them together. For example Rd 2 might have a single 1-0 player vs a 0-1 player.
After the rounds are over the Wins and Losses will be assessed to determine the top 8 remaining players who will then continue to a sudden death style playoff.
If there are multiple players with the same Win/Loss ratio then the strength of their opponents will determine who makes it into the top 8. For example, if you lose to someone that goes 6-0 in the tournament you will usually be a higher seed than someone with the same record as you that lost to someone that went 3-3. This could translate into your 4-2 record being good enough for top 8.
Tournament Rules:
1. All Matches will be Best of 3 Games, except the final match which will be Best of 5. (A Match is the result of your BO3 Games)
2. All participants will have One Week to finish their matches with their opponent. It is required to have finished 1 game before Sunday to prevent a marathon session on the last day and possibly delaying the tournament. If you have not been available but your opponent has, then you will receive a game loss going into your Sunday game(s).
3. Ladder Era will be used for all Matches. Please make sure you are using the latest version.
4. Ladder Competitive Maps will be used for the random map. No Mirror and Shuffle Sides is required. Players may pick their faction/leader if they'd like. If both players pick the same faction then they will each be given a chance to change their faction or continue with the mirror. Always confirm with your opponent that they are ready to start the match before starting (Basically, normal Ladder games.) Once a map is played in your match it cannot be played on again for that round. For example, if in the first game you random Freelands then you cannot play that map again for game two or three.
5. Games should have an 8 min timer (480/300/480/30, this would mean even if you use all of your timer, if you complete 6 "actions" you will still have 8 mins on your next turn). Both players can also agree to No Timer. If No Timer is used - Excessively long turns (10-15+ mins) should be only when absolutely required. Have some common sense and decency here and don't abuse the no time limit. Under extreme circumstances I reserve the right to give someone a warning, a game loss and/or DQ them from the tournament if they are constantly taking excessive time for their turn. Taking long turns should only happen in the thick of units clashing on the battlefield, not while you're dancing around for positioning.
6. All games will be reported to the Ladder. A Ranked Ladder account is required to participate in the tournament. https://wesnoth.gamingladder.info/
To prevent smurfs and aliases, it is required to have 10+ matches on your ladder account.
7. Game names should be named like this: "Ladder Tournament RD# player vs player". For example: "Ladder Tournament RD1 halder vs abhijit". Please stick with this simple naming convention so that it is easy for us to look up games on the replay server.
8. Discord is required. Please join here https://discord.gg/Ud3sKzf Game results should be posted to the Ladder Discord channel in the tournament text channel. After the game result is posted, a chat will open on the Ladder Discord to discuss the match but you can also discuss them here.
9. Cheating and Bad Sportsmanship will not be tolerated. Tensions can be high in tournament games, please make sure to be a graceful loser as well as a graceful winner.
10. Observers On is required. I strongly suggest that you mute all observers until after the match is over. The command for this is :muteall
The reason for this is because in the last tournament sometimes people would accidentally comment on something important and forget to be in obs-only chat. Don't risk your game being influenced by observers.
11. If two participants are in a stalemate and both wish to draw the match, they still need to play matches to complete a BO3, with the first player getting to 2 wins winning the round
12. All other issues or questions can be brought to me for clarification.
Thanks to abhijit and halder for helping me run this tournament!
Current Participants:
Top 8 after 6 rounds:
1: Krogen 18 71.67 83.33 68.42
2: enacui 15 61.11 76.92 54.01
3: halder 15 56.67 76.92 53.11
4: matto 15 47.22 84.62 46.54
5: Danniel_BR 12 69.44 62.5 63.85
6: Zvhxii 12 61.11 56.25 59.95
7: diomed 12 58.33 71.43 54.52
8: Dreadnough 12 55 64.29 53.74
Quarterfinals:
1 Krogen vs 8 Dreadnough 2-0
4 matto vs 5 Danniel_BR 0-2
2 enacui vs 7 diomed 2-0
3 halder vs 6 Zvhxii 0-1
Semi-finals:
1 Krogen vs 5 Danniel_BR 2-0
2 enacui vs 6 Zvhxii 2-0
Finals:
1 Krogen vs 2 enacui 3-1
Congratulations to Krogen!
Greetings! I am excited to announce the second Ladder Tournament,
Ladder Tournament #2 has been delayed to Monday, November 8th. With the release of Wesnoth version 1.16 it is going to take sergey a bit to get the Ladder Era ported over. Sorry for the delay.
The good news is we will probably have more participants with the later start date.
The goal of this tournament is to finish testing the Ladder Era viewtopic.php?f=15&t=49964 (an era developed specifically for competitive 1v1s) before version 1.0 comes out which will then be required for all Ladder matches, and to bring more interest in the competitive Wesnoth scene. I am currently very happy with how balanced the Ladder Era is, and I do not anticipate any major imbalances in the tournament.
Please visit here to register for the Ladder: https://wesnoth.gamingladder.info/
If you haven't checked out my Wesnoth Strategy Guide please do so here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=54236
I will be using a Swiss Magic: The Gathering style tournament structure. That means a certain number of rounds based on how many players are registered. 32+ players will be a 6 round tournament.
Round 1 will be completely randomized. In Round 2 the 1-0 players will play the other 1-0 players, while the 0-1 players will play the other 0-1 players. Round 3 will consist of the 2-0 players playing eachother, the 1-1 players against eachother, and the 0-2 players against eachother. etc etc
if there is an odd number of players in different win/loss brackets then the system will assign them together. For example Rd 2 might have a single 1-0 player vs a 0-1 player.
After the rounds are over the Wins and Losses will be assessed to determine the top 8 remaining players who will then continue to a sudden death style playoff.
If there are multiple players with the same Win/Loss ratio then the strength of their opponents will determine who makes it into the top 8. For example, if you lose to someone that goes 6-0 in the tournament you will usually be a higher seed than someone with the same record as you that lost to someone that went 3-3. This could translate into your 4-2 record being good enough for top 8.
Tournament Rules:
1. All Matches will be Best of 3 Games, except the final match which will be Best of 5. (A Match is the result of your BO3 Games)
2. All participants will have One Week to finish their matches with their opponent. It is required to have finished 1 game before Sunday to prevent a marathon session on the last day and possibly delaying the tournament. If you have not been available but your opponent has, then you will receive a game loss going into your Sunday game(s).
3. Ladder Era will be used for all Matches. Please make sure you are using the latest version.
4. Ladder Competitive Maps will be used for the random map. No Mirror and Shuffle Sides is required. Players may pick their faction/leader if they'd like. If both players pick the same faction then they will each be given a chance to change their faction or continue with the mirror. Always confirm with your opponent that they are ready to start the match before starting (Basically, normal Ladder games.) Once a map is played in your match it cannot be played on again for that round. For example, if in the first game you random Freelands then you cannot play that map again for game two or three.
5. Games should have an 8 min timer (480/300/480/30, this would mean even if you use all of your timer, if you complete 6 "actions" you will still have 8 mins on your next turn). Both players can also agree to No Timer. If No Timer is used - Excessively long turns (10-15+ mins) should be only when absolutely required. Have some common sense and decency here and don't abuse the no time limit. Under extreme circumstances I reserve the right to give someone a warning, a game loss and/or DQ them from the tournament if they are constantly taking excessive time for their turn. Taking long turns should only happen in the thick of units clashing on the battlefield, not while you're dancing around for positioning.
6. All games will be reported to the Ladder. A Ranked Ladder account is required to participate in the tournament. https://wesnoth.gamingladder.info/
To prevent smurfs and aliases, it is required to have 10+ matches on your ladder account.
7. Game names should be named like this: "Ladder Tournament RD# player vs player". For example: "Ladder Tournament RD1 halder vs abhijit". Please stick with this simple naming convention so that it is easy for us to look up games on the replay server.
8. Discord is required. Please join here https://discord.gg/Ud3sKzf Game results should be posted to the Ladder Discord channel in the tournament text channel. After the game result is posted, a chat will open on the Ladder Discord to discuss the match but you can also discuss them here.
9. Cheating and Bad Sportsmanship will not be tolerated. Tensions can be high in tournament games, please make sure to be a graceful loser as well as a graceful winner.
10. Observers On is required. I strongly suggest that you mute all observers until after the match is over. The command for this is :muteall
The reason for this is because in the last tournament sometimes people would accidentally comment on something important and forget to be in obs-only chat. Don't risk your game being influenced by observers.
11. If two participants are in a stalemate and both wish to draw the match, they still need to play matches to complete a BO3, with the first player getting to 2 wins winning the round
12. All other issues or questions can be brought to me for clarification.
Thanks to abhijit and halder for helping me run this tournament!
Current Participants:
- 1. Chekhovs_Cannon
2. Krogen
3. clmates
4. Spyrath
5. KhorneflakesBA
6. Danniel_BR
7. Megac1
8. matto
9. StonyDrew
10. quincy2112
11. Dreadnough
12. BadHatHarry
13. wtf_is_this
14. nuclearm1nd
15. diomed
16. hitandrun
17. Cremember
18. Vilebeggar
19. Kendoka
20. MYFH
21. squibie
22. Xplorer
23. TheLastVegan
24. Weiming_Liu
25. halder
26. Zinnsoldat
27. Hardin
28. shortcat
29. Ben24626
30. Zvhxii
31. plk2
32. schlamarcel
33. SkyEnd
34. enacui
Top 8 after 6 rounds:
1: Krogen 18 71.67 83.33 68.42
2: enacui 15 61.11 76.92 54.01
3: halder 15 56.67 76.92 53.11
4: matto 15 47.22 84.62 46.54
5: Danniel_BR 12 69.44 62.5 63.85
6: Zvhxii 12 61.11 56.25 59.95
7: diomed 12 58.33 71.43 54.52
8: Dreadnough 12 55 64.29 53.74
Quarterfinals:
1 Krogen vs 8 Dreadnough 2-0
4 matto vs 5 Danniel_BR 0-2
2 enacui vs 7 diomed 2-0
3 halder vs 6 Zvhxii 0-1
Semi-finals:
1 Krogen vs 5 Danniel_BR 2-0
2 enacui vs 6 Zvhxii 2-0
Finals:
1 Krogen vs 2 enacui 3-1
Congratulations to Krogen!
Last edited by Cackfiend on January 22nd, 2022, 11:09 pm, edited 28 times in total.
"There's no love in fear." - Maynard James Keenan
I'm the guy who's responsible for 40% Gliders in all hexes... I can now die a happy man. =D
Wesnoth Strategy Guide for competitive 1v1 viewtopic.php?f=3&t=54236
I'm the guy who's responsible for 40% Gliders in all hexes... I can now die a happy man. =D
Wesnoth Strategy Guide for competitive 1v1 viewtopic.php?f=3&t=54236
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Re: [Open] Ladder Tournament #2
I'm in! Hopefully I can do a little better than the last one...
Re: [Open] Ladder Tournament #2
Let's go!
"A lion doesn't concern himself with the opinions of the sheep." - Tywin Lannister
Re: [Open] Ladder Tournament #2
Hi
I want to register for the tournament
Thanks
I want to register for the tournament
Thanks
Best regards
clmates
clmates
Re: [Open] Ladder Tournament #2
Count me in too. I definitely can't do worse than last time
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Re: [Open] Ladder Tournament #2
Hi, I want to play!
Thank you for making the tournament
Thank you for making the tournament
Re: [Open] Ladder Tournament #2
Hi, i want to participate in the tournament, my nicknmae is KhorneflakesBA.... cheers
Re: [Open] Ladder Tournament #2
I just hope that you do realise that this timer is impossible, currently you can set 1500 300 1500 30 as max in both 1.14 and 1.16. (For people that does not tinker with their client.)Cackfiend wrote: ↑October 4th, 2021, 7:01 pm 5. Games should have an 8 min timer (timer settings of 480 480) unless both players agree to No Timer. If No Timer is used - Excessively long turns (10-15+ mins) should be only when absolutely required. Have some common sense and decency here and don't abuse the no time limit rule. Under extreme circumstances I reserve the right to give someone a warning, a game loss and/or DQ them from the tournament if they are constantly taking excessive time for their turn. Taking long turns should only happen in the thick of units clashing on the battlefield, not while you're dancing around for positioning.
Re: [Open] Ladder Tournament #2
480 initial limit, 480 reservoirHejnewar wrote: ↑October 4th, 2021, 9:21 pmI just hope that you do realise that this timer is impossible, currently you can set 1500 300 1500 30 as max in both 1.14 and 1.16. (For people that does not tinker with their client.)Cackfiend wrote: ↑October 4th, 2021, 7:01 pm 5. Games should have an 8 min timer (timer settings of 480 480) unless both players agree to No Timer. If No Timer is used - Excessively long turns (10-15+ mins) should be only when absolutely required. Have some common sense and decency here and don't abuse the no time limit rule. Under extreme circumstances I reserve the right to give someone a warning, a game loss and/or DQ them from the tournament if they are constantly taking excessive time for their turn. Taking long turns should only happen in the thick of units clashing on the battlefield, not while you're dancing around for positioning.
"There's no love in fear." - Maynard James Keenan
I'm the guy who's responsible for 40% Gliders in all hexes... I can now die a happy man. =D
Wesnoth Strategy Guide for competitive 1v1 viewtopic.php?f=3&t=54236
I'm the guy who's responsible for 40% Gliders in all hexes... I can now die a happy man. =D
Wesnoth Strategy Guide for competitive 1v1 viewtopic.php?f=3&t=54236
Re: [Open] Ladder Tournament #2
im playing
“The way up and the way down are one and the same”
-Heraclitus-
“This universe, which is the same for all, has not been made by any god or man, but it always has been, is, and will be an ever-living fire, kindling itself by regular measures and going out by regular measures.”
-Heraclitus-
“This universe, which is the same for all, has not been made by any god or man, but it always has been, is, and will be an ever-living fire, kindling itself by regular measures and going out by regular measures.”
Re: [Open] Ladder Tournament #2
Then that is quite a bit confusingly (or even wrongly) stated. Please correct. Otherwise it means 480 / minimum /480 / minimum and 8 minute games are... Not the most skill showing in my opinion.
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Re: [Open] Ladder Tournament #2
I would like to participate.