Troll Revamp (serious attempt)

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Thrawn wrote:
Cuyo Quiz wrote:With a top and loincloth, that would be more accurately described as a "modern fashion sense".
they aren't the same thing? (Off Topic, but)

I think that as long as the biggerism makes everything big, thats a dev choice, but otherwise they should be made to match the majority of units.
Since when did Trolls match the majority of units? Biggerism is not really a danger here, since Trolls are supposed to be some of the largest creatures in Wesnoth with only Woses, some Monsters, and maybe Drakes being larger. Changing Trolls will not cause other units to need to be drawn larger, since they are (nearly) at the top of the scale.

Neo, please also redo the Troll hero units while you are in a Trollish mood.
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Post by Noyga »

They are nice trolls :D
Btw, what is this bright thing in the middle of their head supposed to be ? If it is a reflextion it's probably a little too bright.
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Post by Dave »

Very very nice, as is common of Neorice's excellent work.

Whenever you have time you can animate them, and then we will add them.

If you feel up to it, you can even give them attack animations, death animations, and movement animations, which will make them some of the finest units in Wesnoth. ;)

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Post by Ranger M »

Why does the level three unit have shakels? It seems a bit random for him to be tied up when he is that strong :? .

and it might just be me, but those loincloths look a bit like speedos to me (and probably other people too), could they be made more 'raggy' so that they look a bit less tight
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Ranger M wrote:Why does the level three unit have shakels? It seems a bit random for him to be tied up when he is that strong :? .

and it might just be me, but those loincloths look a bit like speedos to me (and probably other people too), could they be made more 'raggy' so that they look a bit less tight
You're just asking me to turn them into actual speedos by saying that you know :wink:
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Just don't make them too sexy... you know, young people are playing as well... :wink:
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Post by Zhukov »

:| Looks like I am going to have to go against the grain when I say that I don't like them.
  • - The colour is off.
    - The hanging heads make them all look like they are attending a funeral.
    - They look more human then the old ones.
    - They appear to be wearing pink thongs (or rather, T-colour thongs).
    - The warrior is shackled.
Are they bigger then Jetryl's gargantuan new humans? If so, I would have to say that is the only reason I would want them in-game. But it seems I am a minority, so I guess I must bow to the inevitable... *sigh*

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Post by JW »

I like how the lvl 3 uses a tree as a club. It gives a greater sense of scale to the unit.
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Neoriceisgood wrote: You're just asking me to turn them into actual speedos by saying that you know :wink:
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Post by freim »

I think these look great, although I have the same minor objections as many other here:

- A bit to saturated
- Thongs look out of place
- Whats with the shackles?
- The head on the whelp is to big

Even though I'm no good at doing units I tried a quick edit to illustrate the direction I would like to see them go.
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Post by Sangel »

I prefer freim's desaturated Trolls - bright green looks a bit too gaudy, while darker green gives a more "monstrous" feel, which increases perceived size.

I also rather dislike their heads, and the way they hold their heads - they don't seem "hunchbacked" as much as they seem to be looking at their feet. Other than that, everything is up to the usually high Neo standard. :)
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Post by quartex »

Freim's desaturated trolls do look better. These new trolls are a big change, but I suppose it's about time.
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Post by Jetrel »

They look good.
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Post by JW »

I like the old coloration better, though I like the new "thongs" on the Warrior and Lobber better.
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I also think the legs are too short, esp on the L3.
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